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What is an idler gear?

An idler gear in a gear train is defined as the gear placed between the input and output shafts (between the drive gear and the driven gear ). For example, it is used to change the rotational direction of the output shaft, or to fill a large gap between the input and output shafts without affecting the speed ratio. In the example shown below, Gear2 becomes the idler gear without changing the speed ratio .

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It should be noted that the speed ratio of this single stage gear mechanism is as follows. Speed ratio i = z 2 /z 1 × z 3 /z 2 = z 3 /z 1

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TD9 Idler Wheel

By Timkar June 7, 2006 in IH Construction Equipment

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I have just broken the tracks and peeled them back to check the front idlers. There seems to be a lot of slop. When I can cut the rusty bolts off of the shaft clamp so that I can remove the guides I'll see what I am up against. I am hoping it is just the bushings and not the shafts on both idler wheels. I can't find the info in the manual telling me what size the bushings are and what they are made of.(suspect bronze or brass) Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks...Tim

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magicmikey

You might find they are steel backed, copper-bronze split bushings depending on the age. I don`t know of a source for this particular style. Vancouver would be a start??

chip man

For most bearings and bushings, I go to Kaman Industrial Technologies. the closest branch is at 2508 Kenworth Rd. Naniamo (250) 758-3255 You will have to be able to give them accurate mesurements.

Thanks guys..When I can get these guides removed I'll try and figure out the size (using guide as the outer and shaft pin as the inner) and go up to KAMAN in Nanaimo. I have dealt with them for other types of things before...Thanks again...Tim

rocko59

Hi Tim Generally on those things everything gets worn. They should have had steel backed bronze bushings in there. Kaman just brought us some new bushing stock that looks pretty heavy duty, it's cast iron with round graphite inserts formed into it radially, it would probably work great for those idlers, the shaft could be turned down so it's round & straight again, they usually wear like an apple core letting the wheel tip sideways. Regards, Russell

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unscrupless_modifer

Been laying off to fix the same on my TD-9 for a longgggg time. Please post pictures. Maybe that will get me to move on this job.

I'll get some pics tomorrow..It's pouring rain here, but I did manage to get the rusty bolts broken off and the idlers apart. The idler pin is actually not bad and measures 3.115 inches O.D.all the way around. The inside of the bushings are at 3.135 so that's 20 thou of play, which isn't as bad as I thought. I'm not sure what the original measurements would have been and can't seem to find them. Just wondering if it's worth going any further or should I just put it back together and pump them full of grease...(they were really dry)

This is the TD9 I have without a motor (but decent undercarriage), so I am just trying to ensure everything is in order before removing motor from the other TD9 which runs well but has a worn out undercarriage...Tracks are coming off a little too often on this one nowadays, but it still likes to work.

Pics so far of Idler removal and clean up....

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According to my chassis book (ISS-1032B), here is what it says...

Front idler shaft diameter = 3.124 - 3.125

Front idler bore diameter = 3.290 - 3.292

Front idler bushing ID = 3.126 - 3.128

According to my chassis book (ISS-1032B), here is what it says... Front idler shaft diameter = 3.124 - 3.125 Front idler bore diameter = 3.290 - 3.292 Front idler bushing ID = 3.126 - 3.128 Thanks...that's what I needed to know...2 to 4 thou guess it's time for new oversize bushings
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OK, now I need to do one of my front idler bushings as well. Track is split, Idler is out etc. How in the world do you get the old felt oil seal out to get to the snap ring underneath? The old one is bad, so I don't care what I do to it to get it out, but man, it's in there! Is there an easy way?

OK, now I need to do one of my front idler bushings as well. Track is split, Idler is out etc. How in the world do you get the old felt oil seal out to get to the snap ring underneath? The old one is bad, so I don't care what I do to it to get it out, but man, it's in there! Is there an easy way? Thanks! TD9-91

Mine just basically fell out when I took the idler apart. I haven't had a chance to get any further on mine as I have been trying to get the TD14 fixed up . It runs great but I only have one brake and one steering clutch working .(both on the same side) I also just bought a modified 1938 T20 (FE loader and rear blade) with a blown motor that i've got to get home one of these days. I've just finished rebuilding a trailer to haul it, so hopefully within the next couple of weeks I can go and get it.

Sorry I couldn't help.......Tim

If it is a felt in a metal retainer there is a lip seal behind it, sometimes the retainer is 2 piece. An option is to use a cape chisel and collapse the retainer.

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Brut

Good post wish mine looked this good did you find busshings

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